Actor Brian Landis Folkins talks stage and screen, plus our weekly Top 10 Colorado Headliners

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Brian Landis Folkins

In this episode of the OnStage Colorado Podcast, the last one of 2024, hosts Alex Miller and Toni Tresca are joined by award-winning Colorado actor and all-around great guy Brian Landis Folkins. Know by his handle ‘The BLF,’ Brian has been a fixture on Colorado stages for quite some time, and he’s also become more active in film and TV. We ask him about how actors can put together a career on stage and screen to make it all work.

Also this week, we run down our usual list of Top 10 Colorado Headliners — shows of interest to keep an eye out for. This week’s Headliners:

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Transcript

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Alex Miller (00:05.609)
All right, well hello and welcome to the On Stage Colorado. I’m Alex Miller.

Toni Tresca (00:19.01)
And I’m Tony Tresca. And in today’s episode of the On Stage Colorado podcast, we are going to be talking about stage versus screen acting with a very special guest. You know him, you love him. It’s Brian Landis Fultons, AKA the BLF. Thank you for coming on today.

Alex Miller (00:36.351)
The BLF.

The BLF (00:38.407)
Yeah, good morning, everyone. Good morning. Thank you for having me.

Alex Miller (00:42.379)
Yeah, so this is a kind of a continuation. We spoke to you about a, I don’t know, a month ago and you were in Puerto Rico visiting family and it just, the audio just didn’t work out. this is a second take at having the BLF on. Hey, I wanted to ask you, a lot of times people have like the three name thing or first initial or something. How did you come to have to land on Brian Landis Fokins?

The BLF (01:09.083)
Well, that’s my birth given name. And so, you know, as, an actor, when you’re trying to find, find your persona, you’re trying to find some way of branding yourself. you know, if you’re on set and, and someone yells out Brian, about three people turn around and answer. And so I was just trying to find something that would set me apart a little bit and,

Alex Miller (01:31.168)
Huh.

The BLF (01:39.578)
You know, I started using my full name pretty early on. had delusions in high school and out of high school of changing my first name and nothing was working. so oddly, funny enough, another member of our community who I went to high school with kind of coined the BLF for me. And that was Damon Graciel.

Alex Miller (02:04.926)
huh.

Okay, cool another actor we would know from around here

The BLF (02:09.197)
Yeah, so Damon and I went to high school together. And he was being a rock star at the time and he just would always call me that and it just stuck. And so that’s kind of where that came from.

Toni Tresca (02:09.474)
Cool.

Alex Miller (02:23.967)
All right, yeah, it’s always good to get those origin stories. What high school did you guys go to?

The BLF (02:28.124)
We went to Highland Ranch, the OG. HR.

Alex Miller (02:31.518)
Laughter

Toni Tresca (02:33.431)
whoa, that’s over by you, Alex.

Alex Miller (02:35.549)
Yeah, I’m in the range. The high raw as we call it now to be happy.

The BLF (02:39.29)
Yeah, you know, and thankfully it had a amazing theater department with an incredible theater teacher by the name of Laurie, Mr. Larson, Wally Larson, and who since passed away. But he really did wonderful things for that department and for a lot of us that went to school there. I only attended for two years. I was a transplant from North Carolina.

Alex Miller (02:52.885)
Mm-hmm.

The BLF (03:09.268)
But those two years were pretty fantastic.

Alex Miller (03:13.439)
You know, it’s amazing how much a person, you know, a high school teacher can influence your life. had two, and you know, I went to high school and summit high. of course, know, Wendy Moore, she was my drama teacher in high school there. And that kind of got me really interested in theater. And then that was my journalism teacher was the one who was like, after I took this class, not thinking that I was going to be a writer or anything. And she was like, hey, you know, you’re pretty good at this. And I was like, really?

And then I kind of just kept going so

The BLF (03:44.132)
Man, it’s amazing what they can do for a young life. And I think that they’re kind of the unsung heroes of kind of our industry. I think you’ll always find when people are talking about their upends, there’s always a mentor, you know, that usually started in high school that really gave an artist a creative path in which to follow, just even just the confidence.

Alex Miller (04:10.761)
Yep.

The BLF (04:13.37)
in order to kind of follow that path.

Alex Miller (04:13.738)
Yeah.

Sometimes you just need that little nudge. So, all right, well, we’re gonna get to the topic of stage to screen in just a little bit, but first we’re gonna talk a little bit about what’s on stage lately that we’ve seen. I was a lazy bum, I didn’t get out to the theater at all this week, but I know, Tony, you’re out. What’d you get to see?

The BLF (04:19.107)
Yeah.

Toni Tresca (04:34.094)
Yeah, I saw a couple of things, not all theater, but a lot of interesting things, I think. So I started my week off at the Corner Beat, which is this vegetarian restaurant over in Cap Hill in Denver. And I was seeing this comedy show that’s programmed out over there by this great guy named Ryan Wargo. And he had just brought in a massive headliner to this venue. They perform every second Wednesday of the month.

And he had just managed to secure Rory Skriville, who is a nationally recognized comic. He’s got multiple films, comic specials. He’s been in several movies as well. And it was just a really cool performance because he was headlining in this space where there was only about 40 people total.

because it’s a very small venue. So that is a really intimate space for a comedy show and particularly a headliner of that stature. And so there were a couple of opening comics, including Ryan, Jeff Tice and Gabby Gutierrez Reed, who are all local names within the comedy community here. And it was a really, it was a really kickass show. The crowd there was super game and super into it. And crowds really can make or break those kind of small shows like that. Because if it’s only 40 people and nobody’s laughing,

it’s going to be a painful ride, no matter the comedian. But luckily everybody was on board. You can order food there, since it is in this active restaurant. You’ve got food and a full bar there as well. And so people were in very good spirits. I definitely add the performances at the Corner Beat, which are the second Wednesday of every single month, to your repertoire if you’re looking for interesting comedy shows during the weekdays.

Alex Miller (05:52.889)
Yeah.

Alex Miller (06:17.461)
that’s B-E-E-T so hopefully you don’t have to eat beets when you get there because I don’t like beets.

Toni Tresca (06:20.236)
That’s right.

Toni Tresca (06:24.318)
No beats are required for entry. You can enter without eating a bead, I promise. And then as promised, I did head over to Firehouse Theatre to check out their adaptation of Little Women. This is the version being done by friend of the pod, Kate Hamill, who I spoke to earlier this year. And this adaptation is very, very Kate Hamill. It’s very zany, very silly, and very changed for what I felt was

Alex Miller (06:29.437)
Okay. All right.

Toni Tresca (06:53.962)
not necessarily a good reason. I don’t think it necessarily added anything to this adaptation of Little Women is massively condensed from the book. kind of actually ends. This is not a spoiler alert because this book was written 200 years ago. It ends like right when Beth dies, which if you read the book or seen any version of Little Women, that’s like halfway through the story. And the story just inexplicably kind of stops there. So there were some really interesting performances, but I just was

I was left wondering how audiences would react to the story if they had never seen Little Women in any adaptation before. This felt like a very insiders version, revisionist Little Women, which is very much what Kate Hamill is known for. maybe I was just thinking about this because I was sitting in front of these two older women who were doing a running monologues the entire show, pointing out every single change.

Alex Miller (07:46.174)
no.

The BLF (07:46.357)
Yeah

Toni Tresca (07:48.706)
that had happened, that was made. And so I was very avidly aware because these two women were just talking the whole show, which I felt so bad for the actors. was like, I know this is uncomfortable for me as an audience member, but you guys know Firehouse Theater. It’s not a huge space. You can definitely hear those comments on stage. And so I just felt, I was dying for those actors. I asked them, I was like at intermission, I turned around and I was like, hey, could you maybe like not

The BLF (07:56.31)
I

Alex Miller (07:59.103)
Yeah.

Alex Miller (08:04.416)
Tiny.

The BLF (08:05.778)
Tiny. Yeah.

Toni Tresca (08:17.76)
comment throughout the show, which I think only emboldened them because then they proceeded to talk even more in the second act, which I was like, where’s the house manager here? I know it’s a small venue and that’s kind of hard to control, but it was that was definitely a frustrating experience.

Alex Miller (08:22.891)
damn.

The BLF (08:34.151)
Too bad.

Alex Miller (08:36.491)
Yeah. And then you get out to see some, didn’t know that they were doing a restoration of Cannibal the musical. what, was, how did it look? Cause I, last time I watched it, it wasn’t, it that long ago and it really was terrible. The print that I saw was digital.

Toni Tresca (08:51.426)
Yeah, I watched it recently before seeing the Town Hall Art Center production that happened earlier this year, because I wanted to acquaint myself with the picture and everything. And it looks like shit in the original version. So this is the 4K restoration that had just dropped. It was done by a small independent production company who was actually at the event I was at over at the Sea Film Center, which is Denver’s and Colorado’s only independent film.

venue in the state. It’s a great spot over there. And this was a part of their Scream Screen, Screams Screen events, which happened on Saturdays of the month. And it was a really fun time. Candle in the Musical is bloody irreverent fun, I think. And it was just, it hit really well. think the 4K restoration that they showed really enhanced all the scenes in the light.

Alex Miller (09:36.043)
Yep.

Toni Tresca (09:47.042)
Like anything that was using natural light, which is most of it, because almost the entire film was shot on location throughout Colorado, looked amazing. The scenes in the dark, the 4K actually, I think, washed those out even more and made them even trickier to see. So I’d say there were some really good benefits of the 4K restoration and then some areas that weren’t quite as strong.

Alex Miller (10:10.731)
interesting. Cool. Yeah, you see that? be cool to see that one pop up on Netflix so you can watch it. I don’t know, I’d probably watch it once a year or something like that. So, well, speaking of your experience at the the John Han Theater with that Firehouse show, I just happen to be poking around on Nextdoor. And so somebody posted, this is just kind of a reminder to rank kids, you know, a lot of kids are out at theaters this year. And this woman wrote

To the grandparents who sat behind us at the Cherry Creek High School concert last night, it’s never acceptable for anyone to constantly crinkle paper during a performance. Get your candy between the songs. It’s never okay to, all caps, allow and all caps, encourage your grandchild to repeatedly kick the seat in front of him. It’s not okay to blah, blah. So teach your grandchildren manners or leave them home. And I had to move my seat. And so might’ve cut kids a little bit more slack, but…

The BLF (10:54.224)
you

Alex Miller (11:06.355)
But yeah, it’s really kids can really, they don’t get it. I mean, if you go to a little kid show, they’re not gonna shut up. I mean, the four year olds, they’re just gonna say stuff and there’s no way you’re gonna stop them. But if you take them to a more adult show, you gotta give them a little training beforehand. Yeah, well, like.

The BLF (11:20.731)
But sadly, it’s not just the kids. Do you know what I mean? There’s this overall, you know, a lot of theaters are allowing more food inside the theater and like stuff like popcorn. And I tell you, people just don’t realize the live experience. They just think they’re on their couch at home and they’re eating their snacks. And it’s just no awareness. I saw Little Mermaid last week and

Alex Miller (11:45.162)
Yeah.

The BLF (11:50.76)
was sitting next to someone who had a big old bag of popcorn and was just crinkling for a good half hour of that. And it just, drives me crazy. Why don’t they have any awareness that they’re in a live space and these are real people up on the stage and you’re crinkling and you’re, eating. I don’t, I just don’t understand this new trend of.

Alex Miller (12:01.579)
Yeah

Alex Miller (12:13.003)
Yeah, candy wrappers are the bane of, know, they’re almost as bad as cell phones going off.

The BLF (12:19.408)
It’s just terrible and for the audience members even more so but for us on stage we hear all of that and it pulls us out of a moment so I don’t know it feels like as a Culture we need to go over the etiquette of going to live theater again or something. So somewhere along the line. It’s been lost

Alex Miller (12:37.995)
Yeah.

I wrote a piece earlier this year on things you should never ever do in the theater and John Morris has done a couple of them over the years too, so look those up if you’re not sure.

The BLF (12:48.003)
Thank you.

Alex Miller (12:53.419)
So, Brian, let’s ask you, what did you see? Obviously you just saw, you said you Little Mermaid, how was that?

The BLF (12:57.74)
Yeah, so Little Mermaid up at the Fine Arts Center in Colorado Springs, a spectacle of a show, delightful, the use of puppets, which I am always a fan of, some very strong performances, some lovely music. And yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed that experience. So definitely go check out Little Mermaid at the Fine Arts Center if you the opportunity.

Alex Miller (13:25.387)
Yeah, I think it runs through the end of the month, still plenty of time to get out there. What else? Yeah. And anything else?

The BLF (13:28.384)
Yes, till the 29th.

And then I saw the adaptation of A Christmas Carol at the Aurora Fox, which are all female with the lovely Karen Slack playing Ebenezer Scrooge. Super good time, laughed a lot, but the very different kind of approach to A Christmas Carol. A lot of specific references to Aurora, a lot of pop culture.

Alex Miller (13:41.834)
Mm-hmm.

The BLF (14:01.505)
kind of references and you know, Karen Slack is a force of nature and you should definitely go check her out in a role that she probably won’t be playing again. Just super fun. The whole cast really showed up and I had a good time and it’s a quick hour and a half just bada bing bada boom and then you’re done.

Alex Miller (14:09.323)
Yeah.

Alex Miller (14:15.732)
Yeah

Alex Miller (14:29.067)
That’s great. Yeah, I love the picture of her with like these big button shop sideburns.

The BLF (14:33.264)
man, the mud and chops. I talked to her afterwards and had to give her shit about those. Those were my favorite. The sea carrot and slag with chops is worth the price of admission in itself.

Alex Miller (14:37.15)
Toni Tresca (14:41.665)
you

Alex Miller (14:43.135)
Yeah.

Alex Miller (14:47.839)
This is why theater is so fun, you get to do stuff like that. all right. Well, before we move on, I know there’s a couple of news items and maybe some mailbag things that we wanted to talk about. So what’s out there, Tony?

The BLF (14:51.116)
So those are the two shows that I saw.

Toni Tresca (15:04.366)
Yeah, so our podcast last week, Podcast 2024, the year that was in Colorado theater got quite a response, particularly the section in which we ranted a little bit about Broadway World and its awards over there. We had multiple people reach out to us to express some agreement with our assessment, including Christine Woods of Denver Immersive, who said, 100 % agree with you on the Broadway World Awards.

In Cleveland, the market where I was before I moved back here, nobody really takes them seriously. They’re just popularity contests with no meaningful quality distinctions. So kind of agreeing that there was a little bit of lack of clarity about how the awards kind of came together. And then friend of the podcast, Julie Toby shared, just listen to your December 10th podcast, Tony Parasite on the theater community, Reeve Broadway Worlds, LOL. And unfortunately, I totally agree. She goes on to list a little bit more of the qual- about

the kind of how the inclusion of even though it’s called the Denver Awards, it’s companies all around the state, including stuff like choir concerts. So it’s not even just theater or on stage performances. And so I was a little bit nervous, honestly, about saying some of that last week. I didn’t intend to offend anybody who was nominated. I’m very glad to see recognition for theater in any capacity, but I just wish it was being held to a little bit higher standard and scrutiny if they’re gonna come in and kind of.

be this big corporation who is doing a theater site in the state of Colorado. You just wish they would take it little bit more seriously. And so I was glad to hear there were others out there who agreed.

Alex Miller (16:43.583)
Right, yeah. Well, if you’ve got other things you’d like to opine about, feel free to reach out to us at info at onstagecolorado.com or give Tony a call on his cell phone.

Toni Tresca (16:57.366)
It’s true. Every bit of my contact information is listed on my website. So I am not difficult to get in contact with. If you disagree with me, feel free to leave me an angry voicemail and I will listen to it.

Alex Miller (17:10.363)
All right, that’s funny. Also a little bit of news, the application for the 2025 Denver Fringe Festival is now open. So Denver Fringe is an open application festival supporting independent artists. And it’s open to lot of different kinds of performing art, theater, musical theater, comedy, improv, dance, cabaret, circus, immersive. they keep, so Denver Fringe will provide the venue, so it keeps your

production fees minimal. an opportunity to get something out there. It’s a low risk opportunity. But they suggest that before applying, you read their 2025 handbook to learn more about how they work and what to expect. So applications are open December 15th through February 1st. And yeah, that’s such a cool event. It’s growing every year. So look forward to seeing what they have this coming June.

Toni Tresca (18:02.424)
Yeah, that should be an exciting one. It’s their sixth year doing that festival and their five year anniversary last year, which is the biggest one to date with most venues, most performers. And I know from talking with the organizers over there, they hope this one’s going to be even bigger and better. So get those applications in early.

Alex Miller (18:19.466)
Yep.

Toni Tresca (18:21.102)
In other news, this one’s a little bit less fun. Meow Wolf has announced that it was laying off 20 % of its staff. So we talked about this actually a little bit on the podcast last week. That’s my bad. I did not realize this wasn’t already public information when I talked about it. But this week we got a little bit more clarification on what exactly those layouts were gonna look like. So it’s gonna be including, it’s gonna cut 8 % of its total workforce.

including six positions that are here in Denver. And this is the second time that they’ve done these layoffs in 2024 alone. employees were initially given the chance to voluntarily lay themselves off after a December 2nd meeting, which, I mean, that’s got to have been the most shitty conversation to sit through. You know, maybe if you don’t feel like you want to work here, you could just leave. That might be good. And then they announced December 12th that they were going to be cutting people who didn’t leave.

The BLF (18:51.015)
Mm.

The BLF (19:13.2)
Yes.

Alex Miller (19:14.346)
Yeah.

Toni Tresca (19:19.576)
So the Meow Wolf Workers Collective released a statement asking to hold the leadership accountable for the decisions that were made that got the company here. They want the company to honor all aspects of all union contracts and move away from the contractor focused model that we currently rely on and prioritize the needs of full-time employees. The collective also suggested that Meow Wolf needs to prioritize guest safety in our exhibitions by increasing the number of staff.

because several guests have been forced to call emergency services to get medical aid because following the round of layoffs earlier this year, the exhibitions are now chronically understaffed, leading spaces unsafe and poorly managed, which has led to a bunch of injuries in these exhibitions that workers are not equipped to deal with. So in response, Meow Wolf leadership, basically they said some gobbledygook about how shifting financial realities and evolving priorities

Alex Miller (20:16.622)
wow.

Toni Tresca (20:16.64)
led to these decisions, aka leadership doesn’t know what the hell they’re doing. And they’re attempting to expand this company without actually having a sustainable business model in place so that their workers can survive. And I just thought this news was incredibly frustrating to hear. As Meow Wolf is growing, they just opened two new locations in Texas. They’ve got another one in California, but they’re not taking their workers lives and income seriously. So

The BLF (20:18.822)
you

Alex Miller (20:20.126)
Yeah.

The BLF (20:41.612)
No.

Toni Tresca (20:44.93)
Very frustrating news, Meow Wolf, do better.

The BLF (20:47.471)
Yeah, and they grew too quickly, too fast and just greed. I think it was greed. Like, I saw the original Meow Wolf years ago in Santa Fe and loved the experience. And then I went to the Meow Wolf in Denver and was like, OK, things have got a little Disney-fied. It’s super big and you kind of lose some of the charm of what they were trying to do.

And then I went to the Vegas one just to check it out and they were charging per attraction. And if you wanted to see the whole kind of package, it was like 250 bucks. And I was like, this is out of control guys. You’re losing the kind of spirit of what you set out to create with these like art installations, this immersive experience. And I just, I’m unimpressed with how they’re grown.

Alex Miller (21:29.074)
out.

The BLF (21:45.335)
because that Santa Fe experience was something that was so special to me, really enjoyed what they did there. And ever since it just feels like corporate machine.

Alex Miller (21:58.333)
Yeah, that’s unfortunate. Yeah, because you know, it’s it’s such a whimsical, you know, the vibe is is very much not corporate. But of course, there’s some there’s always going to be an entity behind anything. But yeah, growing too fast is definitely a big issue for some organizations. Well, on a more positive side, this is just kind of came came in yesterday. It’s on it’s online today. So Onstage Colorado won a true West Award from

The BLF (22:02.595)
Thanks.

Alex Miller (22:24.587)
Thanks to John Moore and the Denver Gazette for recognizing our efforts to provide high quality accessible coverage of the state’s arts and culture. while the whole piece as usual is well written, here is, this is your favorite line, Tony. So together, John Moore writes, the onstage team stands forth like gladiators coming to the benevolent aid of beleaguered theater companies, large and small as they struggle in the largely vain pursuit of building attendance figures back up to pre-COVID levels.

gladiators Tony, you like that?

Toni Tresca (22:56.522)
I really liked that line. thought it captured the spirit. kind of, up against all odds. We’re trying to cover the state despite all other media outlets telling us it’s not a worthy pursuit. But we’re here, we’re fighting the good fight, just like those gladiators had to do in the Coliseum. Although, I guess maybe it wasn’t the good fight in the Coliseum.

Alex Miller (23:03.755)
You

Alex Miller (23:16.126)
Alright.

Yeah, right. We’ll have to get some leather suits or something to live up to that reputation. yeah, it’s always great to get some recognition. we’re definitely proud of what we’ve done so far with the site and the podcast and our calendar and newsletter and all the stuff that we’ve built up over the last six or so years to make Onstage Colorado a good resource for the theater community here in Colorado.

The BLF (23:45.185)
That’s wonderful. Congratulations, guys.

Alex Miller (23:47.883)
Yeah, thanks. So just real quick. So John’s been doing these awards for many years. I think they were originally called Ovation Awards when he was at the Denver Post, and then they’ve evolved into True West. And he’s kind of taken them to his somewhat newer gig at the Denver Gazette. And every day in December, he calls out other theater folks. So it’s a really nice, just love letter to the theater community that, yeah, that extends over the…

Toni Tresca (23:49.07)
Thank you.

The BLF (24:13.088)
acknowledgement. Yeah. He calls it bouquets. 30 bouquets for 30 days. And it was a, it’s a nice addition of the unsung hero. That’s the new edition this year where he kind of attacks on what he’s calling the unsung hero, which is pretty cool.

Alex Miller (24:17.853)
Yeah. Yeah. So.

Alex Miller (24:28.008)
Uh-huh.

Alex Miller (24:31.403)
Yeah, there’s a lot of those in theater that people that you can’t do without but are not on stage. so yeah, that’s the Stu West awards. And I did talk to John about having him on the podcast in January to go over this year’s selections and he, John is one of the he’s kind of like the hardest working man in the show business in terms of coverage and writing and he’s very, very busy all the time.

The BLF (24:34.804)
Yeah.

Alex Miller (24:59.627)
And he told me he’s taking two weeks off solid, which he hasn’t done, like ever, I think he said.

The BLF (25:03.935)
That’s wonderful. He needs it.

Toni Tresca (25:05.134)
I was so happy to hear that. It’s so well deserved. mean, like you said, truly one of the most dedicated people in the entire state and one of the best at what he does. So much respect and love for what you do, John.

The BLF (25:08.884)
he needs it.

Alex Miller (25:17.501)
Yeah, and also he runs the Denver Actors Fund to help theater artists in need. So that’s also keeping him very busy. Also wanted to give a shout out to Kevin Douglas. He is the artistic director at Two St. Lyon Theater and his birthday is, well, yesterday I guess, so when you’ll be hearing this, December 15th. But he also told us that, so he’s been doing a little bit of correspondence for Onstage Colorado, mostly with comedy, but he reached out recently and said,

I’m leaving. So he’s going to the Telluride Theater. He’s got a gig down there. I’m not sure what exactly he’ll be doing there, but that’s a huge change for him. So congrats to Kevin for that and best of luck to you down in Telluride. And we want to get someone from Telluride Theater on the podcast next year too. So to find out what they’re doing down there. They’re a fun looking theater. They’re always doing some sort of burlesque or they’re doing this Ski Bum musical right now.

They look like they’re kind of just a fun theater.

The BLF (26:18.879)
And Kevin is a delightful human. I like him a lot.

Alex Miller (26:21.343)
Yes.

Toni Tresca (26:22.414)
Mm-hmm.

Alex Miller (26:24.159)
Yep. All right, Tony, you want to intro our BLF guest here a little bit more?

Toni Tresca (26:30.318)
Absolutely. So you’ve already been hearing from him throughout the pod, but Brian is a very talented character actor who has been on stage for 30 years, and if this Canval Rebel article I read is to be believed, you began acting as a stage actor when you were five. Is that correct?

The BLF (26:49.309)
That is correct. That is correct.

Toni Tresca (26:51.202)
Wow, that is an amazing feat. You have me beat by two years. My first onstage role was when I was seven. So I’m very impressed to hear that you started at five. Must be a prodigy.

The BLF (27:06.045)
Mind you, it was an alphabet play and I was the letter F for fancy feet. And I did a ridiculous little dance and the audience laughed and clapped and I was hooked. From then on, I never looked back.

Alex Miller (27:14.165)
Excellent.

Alex Miller (27:23.467)
Mm-hmm.

Toni Tresca (27:24.91)
And I guess that leads to why you’ve been working as a professional actor since the age of 20. And as anybody who has seen his work on stage or on screen will tell you, he is a dynamic presence whose performances at venues like Curious Theater Company, Colorado Springs Fine Arts Center at the Colorado College, and Thunder River Theater Company are absolutely not to be missed.

The BLF (27:47.837)
That’s very kind. Thank you so much.

Alex Miller (27:49.449)
Yeah, before I got to know you, Brian, you were one of those people whenever I saw you on the cast list, I was like, ooh, gotta go check that out. yeah, but we wanted to talk to you because I know you’ve, we’ve talked a little bit about some of the ways that you’ve been moving from stage to screen. So not necessarily that every stage actor wants to get into film, but maybe the way they say all senators are dying to run for president, but it can certainly be a path to.

The BLF (28:15.451)
Yeah.

Alex Miller (28:16.969)
a more lucrative way to use your thespian skills, right?

The BLF (28:20.669)
Absolutely,

so kind of fascinated with that world. So I think I’ve always been driving towards doing film and TV. But what happens is you got to make a living. And in Denver, there wasn’t a whole lot of opportunity to do that. But I would seek it out wherever I could. I would do student films. I would do stuff with my friends. Anything that I could do on camera just to get

used to how that medium is different from working on stage. Because believe you me, like the first time you see yourself on camera, you’re like, whoa, turn it down. Let’s bring it back. You’re like way too much right now. And so I know in those formative years, it was just figuring out how the approach to film was different from the approach to stage. Because I do believe the foundation is the same.

Alex Miller (29:28.33)
You

Alex Miller (29:33.012)
Right.

The BLF (29:47.214)
in the ways that we prepare, in the ways that we build character. It’s just that the execution is different. So I’ve always wanted to be in film and TV for sure. And it’s been more in the last, I would say 10 years where I really started to focus on making that shift. And, you know, a big leap was 2019. I decided to take a break from theater and really focus on

on film and TV because I had a little movie called Rent-a-Pow coming out. And then the pandemic hit. And so we all shifted and changed in 2020. Yet the movie still came out and was a pretty successful for me as an actor and opened up some doors that allowed me to kind of pursue this a little more seriously.

Toni Tresca (30:45.294)
So can you take us to what was your first film project and what were some of those initial lessons that you learned? You mentioned that you kind of have to turn it down a little bit as a state as coming from that kind of stage background, but what were some of the other things that you learned from those early film projects?

The BLF (31:04.441)
Yeah. So I mean, early on, like I said, in Denver, there wasn’t a whole lot of opportunities that were available to us. This was mid to late nineties. Denver had kind of had a heyday or Colorado, I should say, in the eighties and leading up to the early nineties. There was a big shift where we kind of lost the gleam of Hollywood’s eye.

and went through kind of a frozen winter as it were, where film productions just stopped coming here. I think there was some kind of political thing that happened where early 90s, Barbra Streisand and think Billy Crystal spoke out against something that Colorado had done. I think it might’ve been around Amendment Two. I don’t remember the specifics of it.

Alex Miller (31:38.645)
Hahaha

Alex Miller (31:57.993)
Yeah, sure.

The BLF (32:00.547)
but it really caused the community here to take a pause. And we’ve never fully recovered from that as a state that supports film and TV. have that being said, largely I would just find student projects. Like I said, I would work with my friends. You know, some of those early films that I did, I could see

how big I was being. could see how some of it was not being translated. Some of those early pieces that I did, I can hardly watch now. It’s just so painful. The kind of journey of an actor when you get to see your older work is really tough to watch. But I was not deterred by that. I really believed.

you know, in order to be a master at your craft, you have to continue to push beyond your comfort zone. And so I just kept doing it and finding any opportunity I could to participate in film. also would, I’m a photographer as well. And so I would go on set as a set photographer shooting production stills.

just to be around it. So maybe I had a small role in a film project, but then I would stay on the project as that set photographer capturing BTS behind the scenes stuff, just so that I could learn and that I could be involved in the community and get to know these people that were making things that I wanted to be connected to. Because I do believe in, you

in either theater or film, it’s about relationships. It’s about finding people that align with the kind of artistic vision and the stories that you want to tell and cultivating those relationships in a very authentic way. Because so much of it, you know, they talk about networking, talk about schmoozing. And for me, networking is kind of a bad word.

The BLF (34:23.606)
Because if you have authentic relationships with people that you believe in as artists and that are creating the kind of stories that you wanna be involved with, it’s not networking, it’s actually learning about those people, about their creativity, about the stories they wanna tell and cultivating those relationships should be very authentic. They should be something.

that you want to do because of the person and not to forward your career. And I find doing that has opened so many doors for me. The biggest projects that I’ve done have been because of those relationships that I have made over the years. And it can be years later that they remember you. if you do good work, people take notice. And if you continue to do good work,

People want to work with people that are creating the best work possible. And don’t be a dick, you know. That’s the other thing is show up on set, show up on time and be someone that is good and fun to work with.

Alex Miller (35:26.335)
Yeah.

Alex Miller (35:34.473)
Right. Yeah, it’s funny. The first time I ever met you, I was working in the marketing department for the satellite internet company and we hired you to do a spot. the idea was that you were teaching your son trumpet over and you were like deployed overseas. You were like an army guy or something. But in that same series, we also had, I think, Mertra Vathan was in one of them. Diana Dresser had a small part. So we had, I didn’t realize, you know, what amazing actors that we were.

The BLF (35:51.265)
Yeah.

The BLF (36:01.366)
They were getting these giants. That’s theater.

Alex Miller (36:03.387)
I know, I know. But those can be a decent payday as well for actors if there’s local stuff going on, A TV spot.

The BLF (36:10.074)
absolutely. And you know, as theater actors, we would look for those things because when you’re committed to a show, you’re committed for two, three months at, you know, usually on the average. And it’s hard to audition for film when you are doing a show because, you know, unlike film, when you have a performance weekend, you can’t just like say, I’m not coming to this show.

And a lot of times people don’t understand that. It’s like very, it’s a commitment that you honor. And so those industrials, those little one-offs, a day shoot really kind of help fund our lives. And so those are so important to actors locally, especially.

Toni Tresca (37:02.518)
So I remember from one of our conversations, I think it was at the Henry Awards this year, Brian, we were talking a little bit about the difference in terms of pay between theater work and film work. Can you kind of from that business side contextualize that a little bit for audience members? What is your kind of, how do you make your livelihood as a working professional actor?

The BLF (37:26.024)
Yeah, absolutely. know, and I made a commitment long ago to make my living solely by the art that I create or art adjacent. So early on, I’ve had some crazy jobs. You know, I used to work at the old Casa Bonita back in the day. I did all the skits back there. I even at the end of my time there was doing the diving. I’ve worked at

Alex Miller (37:54.069)
Wow.

The BLF (37:54.836)
places at like Park Meadows Mall, had a place called the Store of Knowledge and my job was to demonstrate toys as people walked in and it’s kind of where I learned my juggling skills. I’ve done children’s theater, I did children’s theater for about 20 years. It was kind of my day job. I’ve done so many different kind of things. I was a teaching artist at Denver Center for over 20 years. A lot of stuff

that at least, you know, that was connected, like I said, art adjacent, my photography, all of that was to support my acting problem, you know? So like, just to make a living, I had to do these other things. And I got to a place where I was like, I just wanna see if I can make a living being an actor. it was around that same time, it was like 18, 19.

where I just stopped doing, I slowly stopped doing these other things like teaching regularly, especially younger kids. And I stopped doing the photography as much as I was doing the videography. And it just became glaringly apparent to me that one cannot, especially in Denver or Colorado, make your living solely on theater. It’s just…

It’s just impossible. And so, you know, as I wanted to make that shift into film and TV anyway, a day on a film set, a day on a TV show, you know, sometimes it would cover an entire contract of theater. so it just, also the sky’s the limit in film and TV. There is such a wide

range of what you can be paid. And you start to learn that your worth is kind of set forth by you. And of course your team, like your agent, is going to negotiate some of these things. Sometimes a certain project, they’ll have a hard cap, but some projects are open to negotiation. you know, for me personally, I’ve always negotiated my terms if

The BLF (40:16.592)
If an agent wasn’t involved, I would talk about pay with the production company or even theaters. I think it’s really important to not just accept whatever is being offered, but really kind of explore what those boundaries are. And to know that you’re worth it, to know that I’ve worked as a professional for 30 years, I can negotiate my rate.

ask for more money or I can just see where those boundaries are because sometimes there is no wiggle room, but sometimes there is. yes, the film and TV, the opportunity to make money is definitely there. It’s more about the entry point. It’s more about finding how you get into this industry and where your place is in it has been kind of the biggest struggle. Yeah.

Alex Miller (41:14.303)
Yep. Well, I know you told me recently that you do have a pretty interesting project that has some potential. How much can you tell us about this TV pilot?

The BLF (41:25.427)
Yeah, I unfortunately can’t really speak into because of NDAs. What I can say is I went to LA in October to shoot a sizzle for a pilot where I’m the lead. again, I go back to relationships. The only reason I have this opportunity is because of the relationships that I fostered.

It’s because I did a student film for these kids that were right at the end of film school out in California, maybe two and a half years ago. And they saw me in a Zoom that I was doing for a friend during COVID time where I was playing Mank, the Gary Oldman role, and saw me on this Zoom and reached out to me and

They didn’t realize I was in LA. They’d sent me a script and were like, we’d love for you to play this part in the script. And I was like, no, I’m not in LA, right? And they’re like, well, sorry, sorry. But then a year later, they reached out to me and said, we wrote this script for you. We’re gonna fly you out. We want you to be a part of this. And we did this short film that was like maybe three days of shooting. And it’s those opportunities. I really encourage young actors.

to take risks when possible. Do as much as you can because you never know what that filmmaker is going to do years later. And so, yeah, it’s a sizzle for a pilot. We have a really good platform in which to pitch to specific companies. And it’s a proven IP. is something that already has an existing fan base.

really excited. wish I could give you more details, but as soon as I am able to talk about it, I’ll circle back and let you guys know.

Alex Miller (43:26.411)
Yeah, well, you wouldn’t want to jinx it. So we know how these things can sit on a knife’s edge as to whether they go forward or not. You never know. Yeah. So, but yeah, there are a number of well-known actors out there that have gone from stage to screen. And Tony, you had that list, didn’t you?

The BLF (43:30.371)
Yeah. big time.

Toni Tresca (43:44.662)
I do. Yeah. So bunch of people who started like you, Brian, on the stage are people like, obviously the well-known Meryl Streep. I started, was stage actor, hugely acclaimed film actor now. Hugh Jackman, got his start, musical theater boy, still goes back to the stage quite often. Cate Blanchett, another one. Adam Driver, Anna Kendrick. And here’s another local one, Amy Adams.

Alex Miller (44:02.037)
Huge.

Toni Tresca (44:12.866)
She was over from the Castle Rock area. She’s actually performed over at, she performed at the now closed BDT stage over in Boulder. That was one of her very first roles. So a little bit of a cool local connection there. Viola Davis, who still goes back to the stage quite often. Kristen Bell, Sarah Jessica Parker, Morgan Freeman, and of course the great Patrick Stewart.

Alex Miller (44:21.77)
Yeah.

The BLF (44:39.551)
Yeah. And you know, the great thing is for some of us, for a lot of us, you can’t get away from the stage and don’t want to get away from the stage. So you go and you do. If I could do one show a year, I would be very happy. I think I would always find myself returning to the stage because you stay sharp there and you find ways to be honest. Like the best stories that I get to tell are on the stage.

Alex Miller (45:02.315)
Absolutely.

The BLF (45:09.314)
You gotta really fight for a good story or a good place in a story in film and TV. Because there’s so many actors out there that are fighting for those roles. On stage, you get to tell the best stories. so regardless how far I go with film and TV, I will always keep coming back to the stage because I have so much respect for it and because it really hones your skills.

and it’s where actors get to act.

Alex Miller (45:41.683)
Yep. Well, we always look forward to seeing you on stage.

The BLF (45:42.657)
There’s your sound bite. The stage. Where actors get to act. my goodness.

Alex Miller (45:47.211)
All right, well, we’re going to take a quick break and when we come back, Brian, you’ll help us walk through our top 10 Colorado headliners shows coming up that we think you might want to check out.

The BLF (46:00.567)
straight.

Alex Miller (46:03.235)
All right, we are back and ready to hit this week’s Colorado Headliner. So these are some of the upcoming shows we think you might want to think about going to in no particular order. So Tony, you want to kick it off? What have you got?

Toni Tresca (46:15.756)
My first headliner this week is Luna C presents the Five Points Nutcracker, a Jazz Experience. So there were a couple of previews of this that happened this previous weekend, but the main performances of this are going to be taking place at one of our favorite venues, Alex, the Savoy Denver, December 20th through the 22nd. And this is a jazz inspired interpretation.

Alex Miller (46:34.878)
Yeah.

Toni Tresca (46:41.774)
on the Nutcracker set in Five Points, Denver, which is frequently dubbed the Harlem of the West. So all of the classic Nutcracker characters have been transformed into local five point figures. And the story presents a heartwarming Christmas narrative that’s deeply rooted in the African-American experience. So Tena Nelson, who is Denver’s renowned jazz maestro, is infusing the performance with her unique musical interpretation of Duke Ellington and Billy Strayhorn’s 1960 core

a score adding a touch of improvisational jazz magic.

Alex Miller (47:17.803)
Wow, that sounds cool. Yeah, I was looking for a different way to do the nutcracker. My first one is from, I’ve never heard of this operation, Rocky Mountain Revels. They present the ghosts of Hillebert’s Hotel. This is taking place in Boulder, December 20th through 22nd. It just sounded kind of interesting. It says, in a historic mountain town, the ghost of Hillebert’s Hotel and their mortal caretakers have lived for generations. Each year on the solstice, they reappear to dance, sing and revel.

The BLF (47:19.755)
Thanks.

Alex Miller (47:44.949)
the arrival of the longer days and the promise of spring. but there’s a new owner who might tear it all down. So, that one’s going on in Boulder and I’m sure exactly where, but it’s on our calendar.

Toni Tresca (48:02.21)
Another kind of holiday inspired show that offers you little something different is Cirque Dreams Holidays. So this features a troupe of 30 performers from 12 different countries that combine their talents into 20 different circus acts. So they’re dressed up as costumed characters and will perform a bunch of different feats like gingerbread men flipping through the air, toy soldiers marching on thin wires, snowmen daringly balancing.

penguins spinning, puppets caroling, and reindeer soaring high above you. So this is all going to be taking place at the Bell Co. Theater in Denver, December 20th through the 24th. And I’m a big, as I mentioned on the podcast last week when we talking about glowing, I’m a big circus guy. any of the circus-inspired take on the holidays just sounds like a real treat.

The BLF (48:56.189)
Sign me up. That sounds fantastic. I am also in certain.

Alex Miller (48:57.963)
Yeah. So you were saying that you learned to juggle. Brian, you still juggle? you have to, is that the kind of thing you have to do regularly to keep sharp?

The BLF (49:05.981)
Yeah

You know, I find juggling a fantastic focus tool. I will juggle before an audition. I’ll juggle before a day on set. I juggle before every performance. Like it is the one thing that brings me into the moment the quickest, because if you’re not in the moment, you’re dropping, you know, you’re dropping the ball. So like I use it almost daily. Yeah, it’s a beautiful tool.

Alex Miller (49:32.203)
That’s fascinating. And it also gets their stupid phone out of your hand, right?

The BLF (49:37.71)
Absolutely! And the more times we can get our stupid phone out of our hand, the more we will connect with the world around us.

Alex Miller (49:45.599)
That’s right. Yeah. All right. My next headliner is this is going on at Town Hall Art Center. It’s kind of an interesting take on Christmas Carol. It ends December 21st and it’s geared towards young audiences and you can kind of go up on stage and help tell a tale of a Christmas story with Bob and Ebenezer and Tiny Tim. So it introduces kids to theater and it’s only about 45 minutes so it’s good for families and

It’s been something that they think they do on a regular basis there at Town Hall in Littleton, so that sounds like a lot of fun.

Toni Tresca (50:19.886)
Yeah. A show that’s a little bit more on the adult side is the second city’s The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly Christmas Sweater. This is going on at two different theaters on two different days, actually. So they’re the touring group out of Chicago. They’re the acclaimed improv troupe there. But this time they’re doing seasonal sketches about the holidays, rounding up everything from family gatherings, office parties.

Alex Miller (50:30.795)
Hahaha

Toni Tresca (50:48.0)
and riffing on classic Christmas movies, they say nothing, holidays, is off limits. So this is gonna be over at the Parsons Theater at the North Glen Art Center on December 21st. And then if you miss it there, head down south to Lone Tree December 22nd, where it’ll be again performing for two performances at the Lone Tree Art Center.

Alex Miller (51:11.721)
All right, that sounds like fun.

The BLF (51:11.996)
and a great, great group of people. Anytime, anything you see from Second City, I would jump at the opportunity to go. It’s always a good time and it’s hilarious.

Alex Miller (51:22.687)
Yeah. My next headliner is, this is a familiar one that’s going on all over, but I wanted to mention it just because it’s at a really cool new venue. So this is the Nutcracker Ballet being performed in Grand Junction by the Colorado West Performing Arts Company. And so this is at the new Colorado Mesa University’s new Asteria Theater, which is like unbelievable venue that they built out there, which I haven’t been to, but we talked about it last fall when they were just getting a…

to open up. if you’re in the Grand Junction area and haven’t been in there, I’d like to love to check it out. yeah, they’re doing eight performances. It’s a full length ballet. there’s not a whole ton of stuff going on on the Western slope of that part of the state, but this is one of them.

Toni Tresca (52:09.166)
My last two headliner picks are kind of focused on helping you get through the new year since I don’t think we’ve mentioned this yet, but this is going to be our last podcast of 2024. So I figured I’d use these picks to help give you some programming to catch in the aftermath. So my first up is the roast of 2024, the fifth annual year end comedy roast. So this is going to be taking place December 28th at the Bug Theater.

in Denver hosted by Brad Gilley and Katie Bullman, who are two local comics. And they’re going to be making fun of everything good and bad that happened in 2024, from politics to pop culture. No stone is going to be left unturned. At the end of the show, if you attend, audience members will have the chance to vote for the best roast as well as the worst roast. So best roaster gets a cash prize and worst roast will receive and I quote,

Something special, but not necessarily something they want.

Alex Miller (53:11.433)
That sounds like a lot of fun.

And did you have, was there another one?

Toni Tresca (53:19.478)
yeah, I was going to do that. I guess, yeah, I guess I can do them both back to back since they’re both the end of the year related. My final headliner is by Betsy. So this is Boulder Ensemble Theater Company and they are doing a 1940s New Year’s Eve. So this is going to be at their home base at the Dairy Arts Center in Boulder, December 31st. And they invite you to hang out with the wildly funny improv troupe, The King Penny Radio Show. If you’ve never seen this troupe before,

Alex Miller (53:23.122)
Okay. Yeah, go ahead.

Toni Tresca (53:48.354)
They do a kind of lie improv shows with a live sound effect guy that kind of emulate that style of the 1940s radio host. It’s very wild. It’s very funny. They’re making up segments and characters on the spot and they’re going to be welcoming you into the new year with that show. And then the party will continue out in the lobby where they’re going to have hors d’oeuvres, champagne toast, and dancing to music by live performers out there, as well as an early ball drop.

so you can get home at a pretty reasonable hour.

Alex Miller (54:20.011)
Yeah, I was liking that, you know, I’m usually in bed by, you know, 10 o’clock. So New Year’s Eve is always a struggle for me. So that would look like it looked like a fun one. All right. My last two are a little, little bit different. So I thought I’d mention this one. Colorado Brass is doing a show called Home for Christmas. This is a free show, December 21st and 22nd. Celebrates the season with music that will fill you with joy, nostalgia and the warmth of good friends. And they’re may even

special visit from some guy in a red suit. that is at the King Center in Denver, December 21st and 22nd. And then my next one is from Cleo Parker Robinson Dance. Every year they do this one. Granny dances to a holiday drum and this goes through December 22nd. Celebrates the magic of the season through dance, music and spoken words. So these are, it’s cool because it explores holiday traditions from around the world. And this is the 33rd anniversary of this show. So

been going on for a while so they know what they’re doing there with granny dances to the holiday drama Cleoparker Robinsons so check that out if you can.

The BLF (55:22.993)
And a wonderful, it’s a wonderful show. I highly recommend that.

Toni Tresca (55:28.846)
And if you head over there, you can check out some of the construction that they’ve got going on over there. They’ve got a lot of construction going on for their new capital project, which Clio is, it’s 20 million plus project to expand their current venue. It’s going to add more theater space and just, it’s a really cool moment for Clio. We talked about it in our best of 2024 as a big highlight for them.

Alex Miller (55:32.917)
Ha ha ha!

Alex Miller (55:51.432)
Absolutely.

The BLF (55:51.742)
Very exciting. Very exciting.

Toni Tresca (55:55.298)
All right, so that is it for this week’s Headliners. Brian, was there anything that we missed? Anything you’re looking forward to between now and the new year that you want to shout out?

The BLF (56:05.79)
No, no, you guys seem to cover your bases really well. Yeah, I just appreciate you guys having me on. Thanks so much for your time.

Alex Miller (56:15.027)
All right.

Toni Tresca (56:15.694)
Thank you for coming on. It’s a pleasure chatting with you. Anything else on this site you want to shout out Alex?

Alex Miller (56:18.717)
Absolutely.

Alex Miller (56:22.985)
Yeah, I wanted to shout out we have a new reviewer. name is Leela Einhorn. She just turned in her first review for Bob Blue’s production of Airness and it was really good. I’m really excited to have a strong writer up in Northern Colorado. So that’ll be on the site by the time you hear this. So thanks to Leela for being on board. We also have Alice Ketterlin’s review of the new Wonder Bound show Jolly Moxie, which she was gonna look warm on, but that’s…

Toni Tresca (56:34.338)
Yay!

Toni Tresca (56:49.248)
It was spicy, she didn’t like it.

Alex Miller (56:51.755)
Yeah, I saw it. It’s a different kind of show than they usually do where it’s really focused on a story. This one has the Colorado Jazz Orchestra as the backup and it’s kind of more just kind one-offs from the American songbook with dances. she didn’t feel like it was as strong as some of the things they usually do, but certainly still a nice night out. But don’t worry about it because it’s completely sold out. So unless you have tickets, you’re not going to get to it anyway.

Also, our Summit County Reviewer, Karen Mason, caught Every Christmas Story Ever Told at the Breckenridge Backstage Theater. And we talked to those. We talked to Leslie O’Carroll and Brandon Smith last week who are co-directing that one. So I haven’t even read that yet. It just came in. So we’ll have that up. And yeah, so go check out all those reviews plus all the latest theater news from around the state at OnStageColorado.com.

Toni Tresca (57:44.972)
That is it for this week’s episode of the Onstage Colorado podcast. We are going to be taking two weeks off for the holidays, but we will be returning in the new year with brand new episodes starting on January 7th. So we already know who our interview is going to be for that episode. It’s going to be one of my friends who I actually attended, I went to school with at CU Boulder. Her name is Jill Gordon and she is a Vale resident who is organizing a brand new festival called

Weekend with Will, that’s gonna be happening January 23rd and 24th. This is a celebration of modern versions of Shakespeare and how the Bard is being continued in the 21st century. That’s gonna be happening out there. We’re gonna be talking about how she organized it and why there’s not more of a theater scene out in Vale. They’ve got so much money out there. Why is it not going to theater? So I’m looking forward to sharing that conversation.

Alex Miller (58:37.203)
Yeah, it’s always perplexed me.

Toni Tresca (58:41.598)
And then the following week, January 14th, we’re going to be having a very special guest on that podcast. We’re have Mr. John Moore on to talk about the True West Awards and everything arts and culture journalism. he’s over at the Gazette. He’s a good friend of ours and just really excited to have him on and share his knowledge.

Alex Miller (59:03.103)
Yeah, and I would caveat that with just saying, I’m pretty sure we’ll have him on, but he gets super busy, hopefully he’ll make it. Now we’ve said it, John, you’ve got to come on.

Toni Tresca (59:12.942)
And then that Sunday, January 19, we’ll be hosting the second annual Onstage Colorado Awards for Theatrical Excellence, aka the Oscars, on a Facebook live stream like we did last year. Then we’ll upload the audio of that to the podcast feed and share the full list of winners on the site. And just like last year, this will be a slew of awards that seek to recognize the breath.

of talent that’s happening around our great state here.

Alex Miller (59:46.547)
and way better than those Broadway World Awards, right, Tony? All right, well, lots of exciting things on the way. If you want to stay up to date on what’s going on in theaters and comedy venues across the state, subscribe to our newsletter, it comes out every Thursday. If you like what we’re doing, leave a review wherever you’re listening now and tell other theater lovers in your life. We appreciate you taking the time to come back on the podcast. Back up.

Toni Tresca (59:50.178)
That’s damn right, Alex.

Alex Miller (01:00:13.267)
So yeah, Brian, we really appreciate you taking the time to come back on the podcast and re-record this episode. It’s been great to have you on.

The BLF (01:00:19.779)
Yeah, thank you guys so much and happy holidays to all of you guys and your listeners.

Alex Miller (01:00:26.987)
All right. Happy holidays. Thanks so much for listening. I’m Alex Miller.

Toni Tresca (01:00:31.672)
and I’m Tony Tresca and we’ll see you at the show in the new year.

Alex Miller (01:00:36.427)
That’s right.

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